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So the other day I was playing blackjack at another casino in the Caribbean...in Belize, to be exact. The dealer did not take a hole card, which I, being American, am not really used to, but it's going OK so far. I get dealt a 16 against a dealer 10, and ask the dealer if I can surrender. She says yes and gives me half of my bet.

Two types of NHC There's the European version where the dealer gets no hole card and you lose splits and doubles if he gets blackjack. This is a very disadvantageous rule for the player and you want to avoid splits and DD against an Ace or ten value card in most situations. No hole card – In a no-hole-card game, if the player does not take the card, it may become the dealer’s second card. Warped cards – In a casino where a blackjack dealer bends the hole card to check for a blackjack, the cards can become warped. The warps can be later used to determine the value of a face down card.

A few hands later I get a 15 against a 10. The players before me hit their hands, and then I ask to surrender mine. The dealer starts to give me half my bet...but the supervisor stops her. She tells me that if I want to surrender, I have to do it before the next card comes out of the shoe. On the first hand, the players before me both had 20, so it was OK. But since they hit their hands this time, I wasn't allowed and could only hit or stand.
This strikes me as completely ridiculous, for several reasons. For one, the order of the cards does not change regardless of when I decide to surrender. Furthermore, none of the dealers were giving any time between dealing the cards and asking the first player for their action, unless someone had a Blackjack--then they offer even money if they have a 10 showing. So from that point on I had to almost shout at the dealer to get his/her attention when I wanted to surrender, which felt silly and rude at the same time.
For those who are used to European-style blackjack...is this the commonly accepted rule? I sure hope not.That's completely wrong. You should have spoken to a higher supervisor. Belize is an English-speaking country, right?
So, if you had been sitting at first base, it would have been okay for you to surrender, but because you weren't, and other cards came out before your action, you aren't allowed to? That makes absolutely no sense.
And why the heck would you take even money on a blackjack when the dealer has a ten up? What a horrible bet. They shouldn't even offer that.
By the way, the correct strategy is to surrender 14s against a ten as well. So you're going to be surrendering a lot.We dont have a surrender rule here at all, at least I have never seen it used, and I have played a lot of blackjackVerbal declarations are usually not allowed in BJ. So how are you supposed to use a hand signal to surrender if the dealer isn't looking at you?

Verbal declarations are usually not allowed in BJ. So how are you supposed to use a hand signal to surrender if the dealer isn't looking at you?

I think it's been discussed in this forum before. I think the general consensus was both hands in the air, or waving a white napkin. :-)
I have always just said 'surrender please.'I am sure this is a pitboss who doesnt know the exact rule and panicked. Its a shame, as it makes him appear like a bit of a moron.

Verbal declarations are usually not allowed in BJ. So how are you supposed to use a hand signal to surrender if the dealer isn't looking at you?

They are not allowed because the eye in the sky can not see or tape a verbal declaration !

They are not allowed because the eye in the sky can not see or tape a verbal declaration !

So are you saying that if you did the hand signal, but the dealer didn't see it, that it would be OK?Some casinos in Macau have this same ridiculous rule, where if you want to surrender you have to do it before the first player acts on his hand. Mathematically, it makes no difference.

Mathematically, it makes no difference.

Negligible removal effect if you see a 10 or A come out before you surrender. But not enough to change the decision whether to surrender or not, unless you're counting.

In card games, hole carding is the obtaining of knowledge of cards that are supposed to be hidden from view. The term is usually applied to blackjack but can apply to other games with hidden hole cards, like three card poker and Caribbean stud poker. So long as it does not involve the use of a device like a mirror or actions like touching the dealer's cards, in most jurisdictions hole carding is a legal form of advantage gambling in casino table games. In other games, like stud poker, casinos normally have rules against rubbernecking or having a confederate stand behind an opponent to signal hole cards.

Blackjack players must usually make playing decisions based on only seeing one of the dealer's cards (the upcard). But if the dealer's hole card is spotted, a player who plays correctly has a theoretical advantage of up to 13% instead of the normal player disadvantage of around 0.5%. A hole-card player will often choose not to make certain plays, such as hitting a hard 19 against a dealer 20, so as not to reveal that he can see the dealer's hole card.

This technique is not applicable in most games outside of the United States where the second dealer card is normally not dealt until all players have played.

Strategies[edit]

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A normal blackjack strategy has ten columns, for an ace through dealer ten value card. Strategy tables for hole carding differ from normal blackjack tables as they include a column for each possible total dealer hand instead of simply the visible card. Below is a sample hole card hit/stand table for six decks, stand on soft-17. The columns are based on the dealer hand and the rows based on the player hand. Green denotes a hit.

First-basing and spooking[edit]

One method of hole carding is to peek at the card when the dealer checks the hole card for blackjack. This is called 'first-basing'.^[1] A modification called 'spooking' refers to a partner with a better view peeking at the hole card in the same circumstance and communicating the information to the player. Peeking devices have made these methods largely obsolete.^[2]

Front-loading[edit]

Front-loading refers to observing the hole card as it is slid under the upcard.^[3] Newer methods of hole-carding concentrate on observation before the down card is placed under the upcard. This provides information about the card even if the dealer upcard is not a ten or an ace. The advantage varies depending on the rules, the percentage of cards seen, and the strategies used.

Partial information[edit]

At times the player will see a corner of the hole card, but not enough to determine the exact card. For example, if there is no pip in the corner, the card may be an ace, 2 or 3. Or, if there is a pip in the corner, it is a 4-10, but not a face card. To make use of this additional information, a different set of strategy tables must be used depending on the set of possible cards in the hole.^[4]

Below is a sample blackjack, partial hole card hit/stand table for two decks. The columns are based on the dealer upcard and the rows based on the player hand. Partial hole card tables contain ten columns as the dealer's total hand is not known with complete certainty. A different set of tables must be used depending on the information acquired from the hole card. In this table, the hole card is a six or seven. Green denotes a hit. One might note that this table bears little resemblance to standard blackjack strategy.

Next card play[edit]

Hole carding generally refers to knowing the dealer’s hole card. Next card play refers to knowing the next card to be dealt. If a round has not started, and a player knows what his or her first card will be, one can simply alter one's bet depending on the value of that card. In a game like blackjack, if the dealer has already dealt a player's first two cards, and the player knows the next card to be dealt, it becomes possible for playing decisions to be altered to include this additional information.^[4]:255 Strategies are significantly more complex as there exists a different strategy table for each possible next card. Strategies may also differ depending on a player's position in the dealing rotation:

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• First Seat – If the player does not take the known card, another player gets it.
• Last Seat – If the player does not take the card, the dealer may draw it. This also applies in a situation where no player to one's left is likely to draw a card.
• No hole card – In a no-hole-card game, if the player does not take the card, it may become the dealer’s second card.

Other methods[edit]

• Warped cards – In a casino where a blackjack dealer bends the hole card to check for a blackjack, the cards can become warped. The warps can be later used to determine the value of a face down card. This method is largely obsolete as most casinos use devices instead of bending cards to determine dealer blackjacks, and cards are regularly replaced with new decks.^[5]
• Dealer tells – When a blackjack dealer checks for a blackjack, some dealers may give clues as to the value of the down card, akin to poker tells. Again, most casinos now use devices to check the down card, rendering this obsolete in most casinos.^[6]
• Peeking at other players' cards – Depending on the game and casino, this may or may not be acceptable and may aid player decisions.
• Counting by inference – In blackjack where player cards are dealt face down, the actions of other players can provide clues as to their hidden cards. This is less valuable in modern casinos due to the fewer number of single-deck games and reduction in penetration (how deeply the dealer deals before shuffling.)

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Notes[edit]

1. ^Blaine, Rick. Blackjack blueprint : how to play like a pro-- part-time. Huntington Press. p. 154. ISBN0-929712-16-1.
2. ^Snyder, Arnold. The big book of blackjack (1st ed.). Cardoza Pub. p. 311. ISBN1-58042-155-5.
3. ^Uston, Ken. Million dollar blackjack (6th rev. print ed.). Gambling Times. p. 197. ISBN0-89746-068-5.
4. ^ ^abGrosjean, James. Exhibit CAA : beyond counting (1st ed.). South Side Advantage Press, LLC. p. 279. ISBN0-9790061-4-7.
5. ^Humble, Lance; Cooper, Carl. The world's greatest blackjack book (Rev. ed.). Doubleday. p. 141. ISBN0-385-15382-1.
6. ^Snyder, Arnold (2005). Blackbelt in blackjack : playing 21 as a martial art (3rd ed.). New York: Cardoza Pub. ISBN978-1580421430.

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